The Guardians need more power, and need José Ramírez to supply it: Meisel’s Mailbag
Apr 19, 2023; Detroit, Michigan, USA; Cleveland Guardians third baseman Jose Ramirez (11) hits a three run home run in the sixth inning against the Detroit Tigers at Comerica Park. Mandatory Credit: Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports
By Zack Meisel
Apr 21, 2023
CLEVELAND — What was your favorite moment from Brayan Rocchio’s 24-hour tenure on the major-league roster?
Let’s get right to your questions (which have been edited for clarity).
José Ramírez ranks in the 28th percentile in barrel rate and (in the) 38th percentile in average exit velocity. Is he still battling lingering hand issues or is it more a player taking longer to get their timing down? Any long-term concerns? If José isn’t José, the offense clearly lacks a punch. — Josh C.
Josh submitted this question before Ramírez socked a three-run homer on Wednesday … but also before Ramírez recorded his first career four-strikeout game on Tuesday. So, my answer has evolved several times. The final sentence in his question is undeniable. But I’m not sure barrel rate and exit velocity always mirror Ramírez’s output.
Ramírez's barrel rate and exit velocity
2023
28th
38th
2022
39th
25th
2021
73rd
66th
2020
66th
47th
2019
33rd
50th
2018
59th
53rd
2017
35th
51st
2016
18th
38th
That’s a mixed bag. Sure, the harder he hits the ball and the more often he hits the ball hard, the better. That’s true of any player.
One thing that might be worth noting: Ramírez is seeing far fewer fastballs than he ever has.
Ramírez's percent of fastballs shown
2013
64.7
2014
70.2
2015
68.1
2016
61.8
2017
58.3
2018
53.5
2019
55.3
2020
51.0
2021
51.9
2022
50.8
2023
42.5
And that 42.5 percent number for 2023 has actually risen quite a bit in the last few days.
Everyone — pitchers, fans, my yellow lab — knows Ramírez loves yanking fastballs. Pitchers are instead tossing him tons of junk and, in response, he has demonstrated patience, with 12 walks. But he could demonstrate even more patience.
Ramírez's chase rate, by year
2016
66th
2017
79th
2018
90th
2019
83rd
2020
77th
2021
72nd
2022
55th
2023
44th
Even with that golden sombrero, Ramírez still ranks in the 81st percentile in walk rate and the 91st percentile in strikeout rate. (Those respective percentiles were 90th and 99th a couple of days ago.) But he can do a better job of forcing the pitcher to throw him the pitch he wants to hit.
Last year, once he injured his right hand, he seemed too eager, like he was overcompensating, and he fell into some bad habits. He refused to cite his injury as an excuse and declined to reveal how much it was hindering his swing, which made it difficult for us to evaluate his struggles.
The Guardians undoubtedly need more power. They need Ramírez to supply some of it.
Loved the Opening Day tribute, but is there any chance the team does something to keep a drummer in the ballpark? I know John Adams is irreplaceable, but I really miss the sound of that drumbeat, part of the fabric of Cleveland baseball. — Michael J.
They still have the Adams drumbeat soundtrack, recorded several years ago, but I agree: It’s not the same. More than anything, it’s weird to peer up at the top of the bleachers and not see the man in the white button-down shirt and jeans and his 26-inch drum. It would be fun to have a drummer rotation. Why not set up a schedule of people to pay tribute to Adams by drumming in that spot — at least for this season, the 50-year anniversary of the start of his tradition — like the club maps out national anthem singers and first-pitch throwers? Patrick Carney of the Black Keys for a postseason game. Nate Rosenhaus, the bat boy whose band, The Open Doors, received attention during last week’s Yankees series, for a Thursday afternoon game in June. The Solon Comets drum line for a weeknight affair around the time school starts in August.
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John Adams and his drum provided the soundtrack to Cleveland baseball for nearly 50 years
Will Rocchio or Tyler Freeman replace Amed Rosario at shortstop this year? They each have an on-base percentage about double Rosario’s OBP. — Robert K.
The year is 2057. The Guardians’ Triple-A affiliate, the Northeast Mars Clippers, is comprised of only middle infielders and is managed by Tyler Freeman, the owner of a minor-league record 4,500 hits.
Rosario’s going to play. I wouldn’t hold your breath on him being replaced this season. But that competition next spring, presuming Rosario departs in free agency, should be fun to follow. Freeman’s offensive profile fits the club’s contact/speed identity, and Rocchio has demonstrated those qualities with Columbus this month, too. Gabriel Arias will factor into the equation. Of course, one of them could be traded this summer or winter.
Tanner Bibee: When? — Carson M.
Tanner Bibee. That’s it. That’s the question. — Nathan T.
Just a hunch here, but I think you’ll see Logan Allen first (though the schedule and Mother Nature could dictate things). Triston McKenzie is out until Memorial Day. Aaron Civale doesn’t yet have a timetable for his return. Sometimes, circumstances force you to make decisions earlier than you had anticipated. That doesn’t have to be a death sentence. Peyton Battenfield has fared pretty well in his two major-league outings and deserves a longer look, but Allen and Bibee are Top 100 prospects with higher ceilings. When they’re ready, they should be summoned. Allen has made 17 starts at Triple A. I’m just an idiot with a laptop, but he seems ready for a chance. And I don’t think Bibee’s far behind.
What would a realistic trade for future Guardian Bryan Reynolds cost? — Tyler R.
It feels like we’ve been discussing this for two years, which makes sense, considering Cleveland first inquired about Reynolds in the summer of 2021. But for the latest on Pittsburgh’s side of the equation, I requested input from our resident Pirates expert, Rob Biertempfel:
“The Bryan Reynolds Saga is turning out to be more fascinating than I ever expected. When he had that big season in 2021, I figured he’d soon be dealt for a couple of top-15 prospects. The dynamics now are different. Reynolds is under team control through 2025 and wants an extension, asking the Pirates for $100 million-plus with an opt out. That’s useful information to any club that hopes to acquire Reynolds with an eye toward extending him. Major-league sources say general manager Ben Cherington has set a high price for Reynolds via trade and that isn’t likely to change for now. How about future Pirates George Valera and Logan Allen for Reynolds?”
I think the Guardians would sign up for that swap. The Pirates are off to a blistering start, though. Maybe they’ll be buyers in July. (Doubt it.)
I already thought the three-catcher experiment would be over, but how much longer do you think it will last? I’ve got to think Richie Palacios would bring more value to that bench spot. — Tim T.
I think it’s on borrowed time. Manager Terry Francona has hinted as much. Meibrys Viloria has four plate appearances and has caught 15 innings through 19 games. I didn’t hate the idea, and I still wonder whether Palacios or someone else would get enough playing time to justify it, but the current arrangement just hasn’t had enough utility.
There seem to be reasonable comps for a Shane Bieber extension. Luis Castillo: 5 years, $108 million. Joe Musgrove: 5 years, $100 million. José Berríos: 7 years, $131 million. Why can’t (the Guardians and Bieber) find common ground? Do Bieber’s agents think they can get Gerrit Cole money (9 years, $324 million)? Are we on a slow march to him walking away after 2024? We can’t possibly trade him in a contention window. — Matthew H.
This will be the topic of the winter.
My sense is they’ve never come particularly close to finding common ground for an extension, at least not the last few springs. And it certainly doesn’t seem like they’re going to make headway now, with Bieber able to hear the engine of the Brinks truck as it rumbles toward his driveway.
Cole’s bounty seems high, but Bieber could land something in between that and what Castillo, Musgrove and Berríos netted. I could see a team giving him 7 years/$175 million or 8 years/$200 million, provided his production doesn’t wane the next two seasons. That team surely won’t be Cleveland. So, that leaves the Guardians in a weird spot.
Sure, they’ve traded starting pitchers who were on the doorstep of free agency. But they’ve done that when they were comfortable with their remaining rotation and were on the downswing of a contention window. This would be dealing their ace as they enter what should be their prime years of contention.
So, do they let him play out this season and next and then walk in free agency? Do they try to recoup some value for him in a trade and pray that some combination of Triston McKenzie/Cal Quantrill/Aaron Civale/Zach Plesac/ Logan Allen/Daniel Espino/Tanner Bibee/Gavin Williams can be a World Series-caliber rotation in 2024? That’s a lot to ask of a handful of inexperienced pitchers. Do they trade Bieber this winter and then also trade for someone else with more team control? There are a lot of avenues to consider, and a lot could hinge on the progress of the club’s group of top pitching prospects.
How does Shane Bieber stack up against the pitchers who have recently signed large contracts? (Geoff Burke / USA Today)
Do you sense any frustration among Guardians players/coaches with Mike Zunino’s inability to block balls in the dirt? Seems he’s being lazy and trying to backhand balls in the dirt rather than dropping to his knee. — Brian L.
“Lazy” isn’t a fair word there. “Lazy” would be nonchalantly retrieving the ball after it squirts away from him. But there are definitely some mechanics and approaches that need tweaking; that’s where Sandy Alomar Jr. can offer value as a coaching resource. Blocking metrics have not been favorable to Zunino. This isn’t new. And it’s certainly jarring with how often it has happened, especially given the team’s recent history of defensive stalwarts behind the plate. We’re in some bizarro world where Cleveland employs a catcher who’s delivering plenty at the plate, but is struggling behind it. To no surprise, pitchers have praised the catching group. They’re not going to throw their batterymates under the bus. But there’s a mental element to it. The Guardians’ starting staff isn’t exactly overpowering. They need to be able to throw a two-strike curveball with conviction, even if there’s a runner on third. At the moment, doing so carries more risk than it did in recent years.
The Guardians announced 18 charitable initiatives that players will participate in this season, nine of which are new. That seems like a pretty high number, and more than in seasons past. What do you feel is driving this shift toward more player involvement? — Nathan K.
I consulted Megan Ganser, manager of player engagement and family relations, for insight into the process:
“As part of one-on-one meetings with each player and coach in spring training, our community impact team has the opportunity to ask players what they’re passionate about as well as educate them about the needs of the Cleveland community. Many sit down at the table already knowing the causes dear to them. They work with our team to design their own player program. These players are human and they crave connection to their community. In many cases, they have experienced hardship on a personal level. The connection builds meaningful relationships and emotional ties to the city.”
With the early returns on rule changes being seemingly positive across fan bases, is it possible Cleveland can ever become a baseball city again? Or would it take a Browns moving type of event for that to even have a chance? Side question: How many true baseball cities (if any) are left in America? — Ben A.
I could devote an entire series of articles to these questions. I polled my colleagues about the last question, and the consensus is New York, Boston, Chicago and St. Louis all qualify as baseball towns. I think you could argue for Los Angeles, San Francisco and Milwaukee, too, but there are levels to this. Some cities fervently support multiple teams. Some cities would be baseball towns if not for management decisions. Detroit, for instance, boasted strong attendance numbers for more than a decade until a painful, botched rebuild sucked the life out of Comerica Park in recent years.
As for Cleveland, the act of pitting fans against each other is beyond tired, a lazy sports talk radio trope. Fans can support one team in town without sacrificing their support of another. Now, there’s finite disposable income to go around. That’s a different story, and it pertains to your question. Will MLB’s new rules help the Guardians draw more fans to the ballpark and to the broadcasts? That’s probably a more apt way to frame it. Obviously, the new rules are only one component. On-field performance, messaging from the organization, treatment of season-ticket holders, access to following the team — those are all facets that influence fan support.
The rule changes have helped make the game more palatable to the average viewer. I’m surprised by how much more intently I’ve watched every game. I used to be able to scroll through Twitter or talk to colleagues in the press box or read “War And Peace” between pitches. Now, there’s no reason to divert your attention during an at-bat. Maybe that’ll help MLB restore some of its nationwide appeal and, over time, spark attendance numbers in Cleveland and other cities. But football is king in Northeast Ohio (and in most places). That won’t change, even with a pitch clock, with robot umpires, with robot players.