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Indians’ rising prospects, 2022 outfield, draft philosophies, and baseball rule changes: Meisel’s Mailbag
By Zack Meisel 3m ago
HOUSTON — A few days after the fact, members of the Indians organization, fans and reporters are still marveling at Franmil Reyes’ home run to center field in Oakland, which landed in a suite above the batter’s eye.
It was officially recorded as a 437-foot blast by Statcast, but the International Space Station also picked it up on its radar.
Reyes put on a display during batting practice Monday, which is far from a shocking development. This performance, however, stood out. Reyes peppered the concrete wall that stands behind the left-field seats at Minute Maid Park. He socked one beyond the train tracks that are perched atop that wall, and another between a pair of pennants pinned to the window panes behind that wall, about level with the top of the foul pole.
And, right on cue, Reyes belted a 70 mph curveball from Zack Greinke into the left-field seats a few hours later.
Let’s get to your questions.
Note: Questions have been edited for clarity and length.
Franmil Reyes hit his 16th homer of the season Monday in Houston. (Thomas Shea / USA Today)
Without a consistent left-handed pitcher since The Year of Kazmir, are there any intriguing lefties in the organization who could project as starters in the next few years? — Carson M.
Here’s the full list of lefties to start a game for Cleveland since Scott Kazmir spent the 2013 season in the rotation: TJ House, Bruce Chen, Ryan Merritt, Logan Allen and Sam Hentges.
That’s it. Five southpaws, who have made 44 starts over eight years.
Scott Moss probably would have received a chance by now had a neck injury not limited him to 14 innings at Triple-A Columbus this season (and none since June 11). He’ll turn 27 in October and isn’t considered a high-ceiling prospect.
The guy to monitor is Logan Allen. No, not the aforementioned Logan Allen. That’s Logan S. Allen.
Logan T. Allen, the club’s second-round pick out of Florida International in 2020, has captured plenty of attention in his first professional season. He follows that familiar Indians formula: impressive collegiate numbers, sound walk and strikeout rates, a brilliant performance in the Cape Cod League the summer preceding his final year in school, and now he’s blitzing through the system, having earned a promotion to Double-A Akron earlier this month. In two outings for Akron, he has allowed one run and one walk in 8 1/3 frames.
Overall this season, the slightly younger Allen has registered a 1.51 ERA with 14 walks and 77 strikeouts in 59 2/3 innings. He’ll turn 23 in September and could debut at some point next year.
The Indians have a number of their top prospects due for Rule 5 draft protection this year: Joey Cantillo, Bryan Lavastida, George Valera, Aaron Bracho, Brayan Rocchio, Tyler Freeman, Jhonkensy Noel, Richie Palacios, Jose Tena. Since so many of those players are infielders, is making room for all of them possible, or do the Indians need to trade some? — Matthew S.
They need to make a trade at some point in the next five months. They need to consolidate. There’s a key point that I haven’t seen stressed enough: The Indians would love to protect all of their intriguing prospects, and they can clear out some roster clutter to do that. But a team’s 40-man roster includes 26 active major leaguers, and that doesn’t leave enough space for all of the prospects who need protection.
There will, of course, be prospects who are left unprotected yet won’t be selected. The Indians need to evaluate their players and also survey how other teams view their players, so they have a strong grasp about who to protect and an idea of what value they might have in a trade.
Do you care to project the 2022 Opening Day outfield (without a trade)? — John C.
I’d guess there will be a trade of some degree to bring in an everyday outfielder, either this month or, more likely, over the winter. For now, it seems as though the Indians are content shuffling Harold Ramirez, Bradley Zimmer, Daniel Johnson and Oscar Mercado in and out of the lineup to see if any of them deserve a head start in the 2022 outfield competition.
Playing by your anti-trade rules, I’ll go with Ramirez, Mercado and Johnson, though Nolan Jones could certainly start in right field if he debuts this September or the service-time-manipulation loophole is closed in the new collective bargaining agreement. (Either way, a trade that addresses at least one outfield spot makes sense. For more on the outfield situation, click or tap here.)
Harold Ramirez is stating his case for being part of the Indians’ future outfield plans. (Charles LeClaire / USA Today)
Can you shed some light on the Indians’ drafting philosophy? They clearly target a certain type of player — either high school pitchers with electric stuff or seasoned college arms with great command, and contact-oriented hitters but with (19 of their 21 picks this year) spent on pitchers, I’m curious how much of that is them wanting to restock the pitching on the farm versus an organizational philosophy to draft the “best player available” no matter what. — Ethan S.
First, let’s check with amateur scouting director Scott Barnsby: “We felt like this was the strength of the draft: college pitching. The depth was really impressive. One of the things we take a lot of pride in is getting to know the players and getting to know their makeup. I think what we’ve seen is a lot of the players that we’ve selected — it speaks to their makeup, how they utilized the downtime last year — we saw consistent jumps with these guys. We stuck with the theme. It wasn’t the specific plan going in, but it was certainly the strength of the draft and we do feel like we took advantage of that.”
It’s no secret that the Indians tend to focus on pitching in the amateur draft and middle infielders in the international market, but they were far from the only team to amass a collection of pitchers last week. The Angels, for instance, didn’t draft a single hitter in their 20 selections.
Here’s president of baseball operations Chris Antonetti on whether the team drafts for need: “It really doesn’t (matter how many pitchers we draft) because there are really unlimited opportunities, given the amount of pitching (roles). Whether it’s in the rotation or bullpen, it’s easy to get guys innings. It gets a little bit tricky at times on the position-player front, where there are only so many shortstops, second basemen, first basemen, third basemen you can have and you have to start making choices on how you allocate the playing time. So that’s a consideration, but I would say it’s not the driving consideration for us.”
Has the Tribe inquired about signing Bartolo Colon? It seems he can still offer at least five to six innings, which is saying more than some guys currently pitching. Plus, he’s a fan favorite. It couldn’t hurt to look into it. — Alex D.
A player actually mentioned the idea to the front office a few weeks ago. How serious he was when suggesting it is unclear. Colon is 48, older than Antonetti, general manager Mike Chernoff, Jaret Wright, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady and Leonardo DiCaprio. When Colon first pitched in a professional game for the Indians, Terry Francona was managing Michael Jordan in Birmingham, Ala., and Antonetti was an undergrad studying business administration at Georgetown.
Colon had rough tenures with the Twins, Braves and Rangers in 2017-18 and hasn’t pitched in the majors since. He has been solid for Monclova in the Mexican League this year with a 3.55 ERA in 10 starts and a microscopic walk rate. But, no, he will not be returning to the organization he signed with 28 years ago.
In semi-related news, Shane Bieber finally started a throwing program Monday afternoon, as he played catch on the field before batting practice.
I think a lot of fans have written off Will Benson, though this year he seems to finally have put it together, not only walking more but also using his power more effectively in Double A. Oscar Gonzalez is another guy who has kind of come out of nowhere to start raking this year, and he was moved up to Triple A. For some of the fringe prospects, was the year off actually a blessing in disguise? — Zachary A.
It’s probably a case-by-case basis, but it’s possible that the year away from a competitive game setting allowed certain players to take a step back, exhale and reassess. Benson did spend a month in the makeshift Constellation Energy League last summer. Players still worked at their craft last year and received virtual coaching. But entering this season, all prospects, especially those who didn’t participate at the alternate site in 2020, were a bit of a mystery.
I asked James Harris, the organization’s vice president of player development, for his insight on Benson and Gonzalez. He credited both players for working diligently in 2020 to ensure it wasn’t a lost year, as well as Junior Betances (Double-A Akron’s hitting coach) and Mike Mergenthaler (Akron’s bench coach) for creating an environment in which they could thrive. He noted Benson has made better hard contact on pitches in the strike zone and Gonzalez, ever the free swinger, has improved his pitch selection.
Benson has posted a .246/.404/.514 slash line with a sky-high walk rate, an exosphere-high strikeout rate, nine stolen bases and nearly one extra-base hit every two games. Gonzalez has registered a .320/.354/.551 clip with 13 home runs and 13 doubles.
With rule changes being tested in the minors and the Atlantic League, which ones do you see happening in MLB for 2022 or 2023? Which changes should take place to increase balls in play or action in general? — Michael U.
Commissioner Rob Manfred indicated the runner-on-second rule and seven-inning doubleheaders will disappear after this season. After initial resistance, I have actually come around on the runner-on-second rule. A pitch clock and an automatic strike zone seem like inevitable developments.
Here’s a reminder of the rule changes the sport is experimenting with in the minors:
Triple A: slightly larger bases
Double A: all four infielders must have their feet in the infield dirt
High A: pitchers must step off the rubber when attempting a pickoff
Low A: only two pickoff attempts per plate appearance
Low A West: 15-second pitch clock
Low A Southeast: automatic strike zone
I’m in favor of changing something with shifting, whether it’s keeping infielders’ feet in the dirt or requiring two fielders to stand on each side of second base. I’d like to see hitters rewarded more often when they smack a one-hopper up the middle, for instance. Yes, it’s on hitters to make adjustments, too, but with how much data and technology pitchers have at their disposal, I think it’s a more difficult task for hitters than some suggest. Making one of those tweaks (but not both) seems like a fair compromise.
Francona’s take on the shifting discussion: “They’re trying to get more offense in the game, I understand that. But you seem like you’re rewarding guys who don’t use the whole field. That, to me, doesn’t make sense. We’re trying to get guys back to using the whole field because you’ll get rewarded for it, for hitting correctly. Now, all of a sudden, guys can pull the ball and you’re going to get rewarded for it. I think it’s a little backwards.”
This will remain a popular topic this winter as the league and players association negotiate a new CBA.
By Zack Meisel 3m ago
HOUSTON — A few days after the fact, members of the Indians organization, fans and reporters are still marveling at Franmil Reyes’ home run to center field in Oakland, which landed in a suite above the batter’s eye.
It was officially recorded as a 437-foot blast by Statcast, but the International Space Station also picked it up on its radar.
Reyes put on a display during batting practice Monday, which is far from a shocking development. This performance, however, stood out. Reyes peppered the concrete wall that stands behind the left-field seats at Minute Maid Park. He socked one beyond the train tracks that are perched atop that wall, and another between a pair of pennants pinned to the window panes behind that wall, about level with the top of the foul pole.
And, right on cue, Reyes belted a 70 mph curveball from Zack Greinke into the left-field seats a few hours later.
Let’s get to your questions.
Note: Questions have been edited for clarity and length.
Franmil Reyes hit his 16th homer of the season Monday in Houston. (Thomas Shea / USA Today)
Without a consistent left-handed pitcher since The Year of Kazmir, are there any intriguing lefties in the organization who could project as starters in the next few years? — Carson M.
Here’s the full list of lefties to start a game for Cleveland since Scott Kazmir spent the 2013 season in the rotation: TJ House, Bruce Chen, Ryan Merritt, Logan Allen and Sam Hentges.
That’s it. Five southpaws, who have made 44 starts over eight years.
Scott Moss probably would have received a chance by now had a neck injury not limited him to 14 innings at Triple-A Columbus this season (and none since June 11). He’ll turn 27 in October and isn’t considered a high-ceiling prospect.
The guy to monitor is Logan Allen. No, not the aforementioned Logan Allen. That’s Logan S. Allen.
Logan T. Allen, the club’s second-round pick out of Florida International in 2020, has captured plenty of attention in his first professional season. He follows that familiar Indians formula: impressive collegiate numbers, sound walk and strikeout rates, a brilliant performance in the Cape Cod League the summer preceding his final year in school, and now he’s blitzing through the system, having earned a promotion to Double-A Akron earlier this month. In two outings for Akron, he has allowed one run and one walk in 8 1/3 frames.
Overall this season, the slightly younger Allen has registered a 1.51 ERA with 14 walks and 77 strikeouts in 59 2/3 innings. He’ll turn 23 in September and could debut at some point next year.
The Indians have a number of their top prospects due for Rule 5 draft protection this year: Joey Cantillo, Bryan Lavastida, George Valera, Aaron Bracho, Brayan Rocchio, Tyler Freeman, Jhonkensy Noel, Richie Palacios, Jose Tena. Since so many of those players are infielders, is making room for all of them possible, or do the Indians need to trade some? — Matthew S.
They need to make a trade at some point in the next five months. They need to consolidate. There’s a key point that I haven’t seen stressed enough: The Indians would love to protect all of their intriguing prospects, and they can clear out some roster clutter to do that. But a team’s 40-man roster includes 26 active major leaguers, and that doesn’t leave enough space for all of the prospects who need protection.
There will, of course, be prospects who are left unprotected yet won’t be selected. The Indians need to evaluate their players and also survey how other teams view their players, so they have a strong grasp about who to protect and an idea of what value they might have in a trade.
Do you care to project the 2022 Opening Day outfield (without a trade)? — John C.
I’d guess there will be a trade of some degree to bring in an everyday outfielder, either this month or, more likely, over the winter. For now, it seems as though the Indians are content shuffling Harold Ramirez, Bradley Zimmer, Daniel Johnson and Oscar Mercado in and out of the lineup to see if any of them deserve a head start in the 2022 outfield competition.
Playing by your anti-trade rules, I’ll go with Ramirez, Mercado and Johnson, though Nolan Jones could certainly start in right field if he debuts this September or the service-time-manipulation loophole is closed in the new collective bargaining agreement. (Either way, a trade that addresses at least one outfield spot makes sense. For more on the outfield situation, click or tap here.)
Harold Ramirez is stating his case for being part of the Indians’ future outfield plans. (Charles LeClaire / USA Today)
Can you shed some light on the Indians’ drafting philosophy? They clearly target a certain type of player — either high school pitchers with electric stuff or seasoned college arms with great command, and contact-oriented hitters but with (19 of their 21 picks this year) spent on pitchers, I’m curious how much of that is them wanting to restock the pitching on the farm versus an organizational philosophy to draft the “best player available” no matter what. — Ethan S.
First, let’s check with amateur scouting director Scott Barnsby: “We felt like this was the strength of the draft: college pitching. The depth was really impressive. One of the things we take a lot of pride in is getting to know the players and getting to know their makeup. I think what we’ve seen is a lot of the players that we’ve selected — it speaks to their makeup, how they utilized the downtime last year — we saw consistent jumps with these guys. We stuck with the theme. It wasn’t the specific plan going in, but it was certainly the strength of the draft and we do feel like we took advantage of that.”
It’s no secret that the Indians tend to focus on pitching in the amateur draft and middle infielders in the international market, but they were far from the only team to amass a collection of pitchers last week. The Angels, for instance, didn’t draft a single hitter in their 20 selections.
Here’s president of baseball operations Chris Antonetti on whether the team drafts for need: “It really doesn’t (matter how many pitchers we draft) because there are really unlimited opportunities, given the amount of pitching (roles). Whether it’s in the rotation or bullpen, it’s easy to get guys innings. It gets a little bit tricky at times on the position-player front, where there are only so many shortstops, second basemen, first basemen, third basemen you can have and you have to start making choices on how you allocate the playing time. So that’s a consideration, but I would say it’s not the driving consideration for us.”
Has the Tribe inquired about signing Bartolo Colon? It seems he can still offer at least five to six innings, which is saying more than some guys currently pitching. Plus, he’s a fan favorite. It couldn’t hurt to look into it. — Alex D.
A player actually mentioned the idea to the front office a few weeks ago. How serious he was when suggesting it is unclear. Colon is 48, older than Antonetti, general manager Mike Chernoff, Jaret Wright, Tiger Woods, Tom Brady and Leonardo DiCaprio. When Colon first pitched in a professional game for the Indians, Terry Francona was managing Michael Jordan in Birmingham, Ala., and Antonetti was an undergrad studying business administration at Georgetown.
Colon had rough tenures with the Twins, Braves and Rangers in 2017-18 and hasn’t pitched in the majors since. He has been solid for Monclova in the Mexican League this year with a 3.55 ERA in 10 starts and a microscopic walk rate. But, no, he will not be returning to the organization he signed with 28 years ago.
In semi-related news, Shane Bieber finally started a throwing program Monday afternoon, as he played catch on the field before batting practice.
I think a lot of fans have written off Will Benson, though this year he seems to finally have put it together, not only walking more but also using his power more effectively in Double A. Oscar Gonzalez is another guy who has kind of come out of nowhere to start raking this year, and he was moved up to Triple A. For some of the fringe prospects, was the year off actually a blessing in disguise? — Zachary A.
It’s probably a case-by-case basis, but it’s possible that the year away from a competitive game setting allowed certain players to take a step back, exhale and reassess. Benson did spend a month in the makeshift Constellation Energy League last summer. Players still worked at their craft last year and received virtual coaching. But entering this season, all prospects, especially those who didn’t participate at the alternate site in 2020, were a bit of a mystery.
I asked James Harris, the organization’s vice president of player development, for his insight on Benson and Gonzalez. He credited both players for working diligently in 2020 to ensure it wasn’t a lost year, as well as Junior Betances (Double-A Akron’s hitting coach) and Mike Mergenthaler (Akron’s bench coach) for creating an environment in which they could thrive. He noted Benson has made better hard contact on pitches in the strike zone and Gonzalez, ever the free swinger, has improved his pitch selection.
Benson has posted a .246/.404/.514 slash line with a sky-high walk rate, an exosphere-high strikeout rate, nine stolen bases and nearly one extra-base hit every two games. Gonzalez has registered a .320/.354/.551 clip with 13 home runs and 13 doubles.
With rule changes being tested in the minors and the Atlantic League, which ones do you see happening in MLB for 2022 or 2023? Which changes should take place to increase balls in play or action in general? — Michael U.
Commissioner Rob Manfred indicated the runner-on-second rule and seven-inning doubleheaders will disappear after this season. After initial resistance, I have actually come around on the runner-on-second rule. A pitch clock and an automatic strike zone seem like inevitable developments.
Here’s a reminder of the rule changes the sport is experimenting with in the minors:
Triple A: slightly larger bases
Double A: all four infielders must have their feet in the infield dirt
High A: pitchers must step off the rubber when attempting a pickoff
Low A: only two pickoff attempts per plate appearance
Low A West: 15-second pitch clock
Low A Southeast: automatic strike zone
I’m in favor of changing something with shifting, whether it’s keeping infielders’ feet in the dirt or requiring two fielders to stand on each side of second base. I’d like to see hitters rewarded more often when they smack a one-hopper up the middle, for instance. Yes, it’s on hitters to make adjustments, too, but with how much data and technology pitchers have at their disposal, I think it’s a more difficult task for hitters than some suggest. Making one of those tweaks (but not both) seems like a fair compromise.
Francona’s take on the shifting discussion: “They’re trying to get more offense in the game, I understand that. But you seem like you’re rewarding guys who don’t use the whole field. That, to me, doesn’t make sense. We’re trying to get guys back to using the whole field because you’ll get rewarded for it, for hitting correctly. Now, all of a sudden, guys can pull the ball and you’re going to get rewarded for it. I think it’s a little backwards.”
This will remain a popular topic this winter as the league and players association negotiate a new CBA.