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Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:44 am
by joez
I'd like to make a trade for Adrian Beltre to shore up third base and take Aviles/Chisenhall's spots in that lineup.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:05 am
by kenm
Did we just finish one of the most boring tribe seasons in history?

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:09 am
by TFIR
If the Indians could somehow sign Victor, they could have a pretty nice line up
Obviously I would agree there. That said, he is coming off the best year of his career and is only a DH.

This team needs defense as well as offense. That kind of money would be best spent elsewhere IMWO.

The exception would be if Victor took discount....doubtful.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:03 pm
by joez
The focus for the brass this off season is to find a way to beat the teams in this division.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 12:09 pm
by joez
We have to do better than .500

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 1:57 pm
by kenm
How about if this team could hit a little and play a little defense. However the lack of steroids the analytically based defensive shifts the general lack of talent in the sport and the rise of relief pitchers all throwing 99 for an inning have just about ruined the sport.

The only thing that would be worse would be national league ball which every 9 AB's is an automatic out.

For the record I think football is ruined as well for a multitude of reasons.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:43 pm
by VT'er
Yet, you keep coming back.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:46 pm
by rusty2
Nice !

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:50 pm
by rusty2
Here is a hypothetical question. What if the Yankees offer ARod for Swisher and balance the money out ? ARod has 3 years and Swisher 2.

That is the type of trade that the Indians are going to have to find to get rid of Swisher.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:54 pm
by rusty2
Swisher before coming to the Indians.

Over his nine-year career in the big leagues -- spent between stints with the A's, White Sox and Yankees -- Swisher has hit .256 with a .361 on-base percentage and a .467 slugging percentage.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:57 pm
by rusty2
Been hearing a lot about a team option for Swisher for the 2017 season. ESPN says that there is an easily obtainable vesting option for Swisher for 2017.

A source told ESPN that Swisher agreed to a four-year, $56 million contract that also includes a $14 million option for a fifth season that will "easily vest, making the potential total value of the contract $70 million.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 4:58 pm
by kenm
VT'er wrote:Yet, you keep coming back.

I think if you do a bar graph of my posting starting in the late twentieth century to now it will demonstrate a significant decline every year.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:04 pm
by rusty2
I had not got around to studying that bar graph.

Still working on the bar graph of Joe Z's increasing love for Cuba and steroids. Cuba is red and steroids is green like money !

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:04 pm
by rusty2
Hey, Hoynsie: In what year does the Tribe have the option to get out of the Nick Swisher contract? – Petyr Baelish, Cleveland.

Hey, Petyr: They don’t have an option to get out of the Swisher contract. The Indians and Swisher are in the second year of a four-year $56 million deal. It could be a five-year deal worth $70 million if Swisher gets 550 plate appearances in 2016, and passes a physical at the end of the season, to vest a $14 million option for 2017.

The Indians could try to trade Swisher, but right now he doesn’t have a whole lot of value. I think they’re committed to playing Swisher and waiting for him to come around at the plate and in the field. He’s been a consistent performer over the last nine years, averaging 25 homers and 81 RBI per season, and I think he’ll stay the course this year.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:12 pm
by Baron
"We did about what what we could, all things considered." - Terry Francona

Meaning even he knows he didn't have enough to work with to make it to the playoffs.