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Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:20 am
by Hillbilly
I’m always happy to see an all star want to stick around Cleveland. I just wonder whether it is wise to invest this many years and this much money in a guy who is oft-injured and really, to be honest, one of the softest players I’ve ever seen at PF.

Having said that, after I posted yesterday I saw the press conference and both Altman and Love acted as if they were in this for the long haul. Koby says he’s not going to be trading him. We’ll see. Even if you were planning on trading him later you would want to say that. Don’t want to seem desperate to unload and weaken your hand.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 9:50 am
by TFIR
civ ollilavad wrote:So how good is Nance? He looked like his dad for awhile on his debut in Cleveland but disappeared in the clutch games. He has enough of a track record to judge better than Osman or certainly Zizic I guess.
Guys like Nance were in over their head this early in their careers. Totally not ready for that level of pressure both playing with Lebron and playing in high profile playoff games.

I think Nance will be a very good player in this league. Not a superstar most likely but very athletic and loves Cleveland. He's a keeper.

Guys like him and Clarkson are still early in their developments and will be fun to see grow IMO. Same goes with Rodney Hood if they keep him.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:01 am
by civ ollilavad
So a roster built around Love at 4, with Nance and Zizic at 5 or backups at 4, Osman at 3, Hood at 2, Sexton at 1 and Clarkson backup to both guards would be our New Look, with some older guys still around to score some points. I can't imagine JR Smith being happy in that role. Need some more Frye type "good guy/mentor" vets to man the bench, I suppose.
And I guess the quality of such a team is totally uncertain. Although it seems a long shot for that blossom into a playoff superpower.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:10 am
by Hillbilly
I'm not so sure I wouldn't start Zizic over Thompson next year. He has sure been showing a lot of promise. TT is on the decline.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:57 pm
by civ ollilavad
I like the idea of a Love and 4 Young Guys lineup, even though it wont' be a big winner; in fact in might earn them a lottery pick.
Zizic at 5
Love at 4
Osman at 3
Hood at 2
Sexton at 1
Nance frontcourt back up. Clarkson backup back up.
and a couple more off the bench
Sounds like an interesting team uniikely to make the playoffs.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:22 pm
by Hillbilly
Well, the East is weak. We could sneak in.

Just out of lottery.

Not sure what they're expecting here. Kind of worst spot to be. No shot of competing for the Finals. No shot at a high draft pick.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 1:50 pm
by TFIR
Hillbilly wrote:Well, the East is weak. We could sneak in.

Just out of lottery.

Not sure what they're expecting here. Kind of worst spot to be. No shot of competing for the Finals. No shot at a high draft pick.
Ditto!!

Wouldn't surprise me if Love gets dealt if the season goes south....which is pretty possible.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:30 pm
by civ ollilavad
Cavs spent a lot of their post-Daugherty-Price ERA and pre-Lebron Era in that middle of the pack no man's land.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 8:17 pm
by TFIR
You know what? The Indians were in that no-man's land for a period of time and emerged out of it to contenders. It can be done though it's not easy.

Indiana is an example of a team like that. Made a really good Paul George trade, new coach and hell they take the Cavs to 7 games in the playoffs.

Cleveland fans would take the equivalent of that this season in a heartbeat.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:49 am
by civ ollilavad
this season
Wow, I would be startled if they could achieve that success in 18-19. Osman, Zizic, Sexton need plenty of game time before they're going to be leading a conference finalist, even in the East. I'll gladly accept playoff spot, and would be very satisfied with a winning record.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:20 am
by TFIR
Just giving Indiana as an example, it can be done.

That said, many would still consider that a failure because in the playoffs we now disqualify ourselves for a lottery pick.

So it's all in how you look at it. As usual.... :lol:

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 8:56 am
by TFIR
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Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:33 pm
by rusty2
Cavs lose 2019 first round pick to Atlanta if they finish better then the first 10 picks in the draft.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:26 pm
by TFIR
Yes, but do they seem to care?

Personally I think they extended Love so they wouldn't lose him for nothing. Now they have a trade asset

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 5:51 pm
by rusty2
I would think they are just keeping all of their options open at this point. Plus they just stopped teams from asking for Love for 6 months. Frees them up to test market for others with Love out of the picture.