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Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:11 am
by TFIR
Thought this was interesting:

George Hill has made Cleveland Cavaliers' offense whole once again
Updated 3:59 AM; Posted 3:45 AM



By Chris Fedor, cleveland.com cfedor@cleveland.com
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- With a heating pad around his lower back -- one of the five he rotated throughout the course of the game -- and his posture proper so to not aggravate the injury any further, Cleveland Cavaliers point guard George Hill sat on the bench and watched his team fight with the gritty Indiana Pacers for three straight games in Round One.

Frustrated he couldn't be out there, Hill made the most of his time on the sidelines. He diligently observed, scouting the opponent like a coach while also looking for ways he could help if his sore back finally allowed him to play.

A few things stood out. He felt he could bring some aggressiveness from one of the backcourt spots. More than just a catch-and-shoot threat, Hill has been known as a crafty pick-and-roll player for much of his career, providing a much different dimension than JR Smith, Kyle Korver or stand-in Jose Calderon.

Hill, a 32-year-old veteran who has been lauded for his high basketball IQ, also believed his ability to handle the ball in the face of pressure would lift some of the burden from James.

That secondary playmaker was certainly missed early, allowing Indiana to make Cleveland uncomfortable on the offensive end, a strange development for a team built to outscore teams and outshoot defensive mistakes.

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But finally, with the help of an epidural and around-the-clock treatment, Hill returned in the second half of Game 7 against the Pacers, showing a glimpse of his importance to the Cavaliers' championship hopes. That was reaffirmed during the Eastern Conference semifinals, as Hill played a vital role in the four-game sweep against the top-seeded Toronto Raptors.

Against the league's fifth-ranked defense, the Cavs averaged 118.5 points on 51.6 percent from the field and 41.1 percent from 3-point range. Their offensive rating: 121.5. Only once during the four-game sweep were the Cavs held below 50 points in a half. Against Indiana, a much tougher matchup from both a personnel and style standpoint, the Cavs failed to crack the 50-point mark in a half nine times.

"I think G-Hill is a big part of what we're doing and what we do," head coach Tyronn Lue said following Monday's 128-93 win. "When he got hurt in the Indiana series, it really hurt us. When he's on the floor, then LeBron doesn't have to over-handle. With G-Hill out there, when he's feeling 100 percent, that really helps us out offensively. That allows JR (Smith) and Kyle (Korver) to get to their spots and knock down open shots."

Hill gave the Cavs another ball handler, an outlet to combat the full-court pressure Toronto used against James, mimicking Indiana's strategy to wear him down.


Hill also provided a bit of a scoring punch, especially early in Game 4 to help set the tone.

He made two dunks and a layup in the first four minutes, attacking the basket with ferocity and showing no ill effects of that back injury that sidelined him for games 4-6 in Round One. He finished with 12 points, as each member of the starting lineup reached double figures.

"I think the first series I was thinking a lot," Hill admitted. "Even in the beginning of the year when I got here I was thinking a lot, trying to be perfect, trying to make the right play rather than being aggressive. I've continued to watch film, work it out with the coaches and find myself."

Hill averaged 10.3 points and had a 3:1 assist-to-turnover ratio in the series. With him on the floor against Toronto, which constantly changed its rotation in search of the right counters, the Cavs were plus-50.

During this playoff run, Hill, not James, has the best plus/minus on the team. And Hill has also become an integral part of the new quintet Lue has adopted as his trusted starting lineup.

The combination of Hill, James, Smith, Korver and Love has now played 110 minutes, the most by far of any combination during the postseason. The fivesome boats an otherworldly offensive rating of 125.5 and a respectable 108.0 rating on defense. In all, the Cavs have outscored opponents by 41 points with those playoff-tested veterans on the floor together.


"I just play the game," Hill said. "I play the game the right way. Take it for what it is, have fun out there, play defense and when the opportunity is there to make a play, just make a play."

On non-game days, Hill has been studying film alongside Love, who also endured plenty of discouragement in the first-round matchup against Indiana -- although for a number of different reasons. But Love started showing signs of snapping out of it in the fourth quarter against the Pacers -- not surprisingly when he shared the court with Hill.

It was then Hill first took it upon himself to create easy baskets for Love, who was forced to work incredibly hard against Thaddeus Young, a player one member of the organization referred to as "Draymond Green of the East."

Then when Love's first-round struggles seemed to carry over into Game 1 against Toronto, the two watched film again. Those sessions paid dividends.

The team started running "Elbow Strong" and "Elbow Big," a pair of sets involving Hill and Love that were incredibly effective during the regular season. Hill believes that helped free up Love to get back into his comfort zone, no longer just relying on easier-to-defend post-ups or an abundance of outside shots on drive-and-kicks.


Hill's presence also allowed the Cavs to get back to their trusty 1-5 pick and roll. In the Pacers series, James had the ball in his hands on a majority of the possessions, and Indiana's defense made it tough with Love setting a screen.

As either Bojan Bogdanovic, Thaddeus Young, Myles Turner or Lance Stephenson was guarding James, the defender would fight through the screen or even switch those actions, believing Love wouldn't have an obvious mismatch because of the like-sized players that defend the two players.

The Cavs quickly realized that wasn't the case against Toronto.

When Love set the screen for Hill, knowing the Raptors wanted to keep switching, Love benefitted from advantageous matchups against a smaller defender.

In Game 2, Love received 11 post-up opportunities, scoring 20 points on those touches. He scored 23 points in the clincher Monday night, with six of his eight baskets coming inside the 3-point arc.

In all, Love averaged 20.5 points, even better than his season scoring mark.

"That was something that I missed, especially in the first series when George was out with his back," Love said. "Just having him back healthy has been very positive for me. A lot of time with the 1-5 pick and roll in this series, (Dwane) Casey had them switching and whether they double-teamed or whether they stayed put I was able to go to work.


"It was the same thing with Kyle, too, I mentioned after the last game, he was able to get a lot of the balls inside and we were able to work our weak-side action and Bron was finding us, George was finding us and it worked well. It's good to have him."

Suddenly, Cleveland's offense is whole again. And the reigning East kings are brimming with confidence, four wins away from another Finals trip.

"We talk about through the whole course of this long season just getting better, getting better," Lue said. "Hitting our stride when the playoffs start. And the guys, we're getting a lot of different contributions from a lot of guys. We got a lot of guys playing well, good team effort."

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 9:16 am
by TFIR
Happy to see the 76ers extend that series too! The rest can only help.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:42 am
by Uncle Dennis
Boy, the Raptors were playing like they knew they had no chance.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 11:00 am
by Hillbilly
They didn't. Just nearly as tough a match up as Pacers were.

Styles make fights.

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Then there was this from last night ...

Cavs GM to meet with Rodney Hood after he refused to enter the game in the 4th quarter, a suspension could be in play, per @JasonLloydNBA

Osman came in and played better than Hood has for weeks.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:21 pm
by civ ollilavad
Isn't Hood the one newly acquired guy whose contract ends this summer? Or is that Hill?

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:19 pm
by TFIR
You are correct civ - it is Hood. He becomes a restricted FA which means the Cavs can match any offer.

That guy just made a choice that will likely cost him millions of dollars this summer. He is an offensively talented guy but likely being benched due to team defense issues. In fairness it's not easy to sync with team defense at playoff levels in this short time. But regardless he screwed up badly there.

People don't realize how incredibly different things are in the playoffs and the Cavs have a core of guys who are battle tested. But of the guys they added only George Hill fits that description.

The continued recovery of Kevin Love has been huge.

Extension of the Celtics' series is welcome.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:07 pm
by civ ollilavad
That is actually a pretty old lineup we're using now. All the starters are over 30, except Love who's not quite. I guess that helps in the playoffs!

Next year will take care of itself but perhaps Clarkson, Nance, Osman, Zizic and the No. 8 first round pick are a reasonably good young core. Maybe. But that's OK; this year is all that matters now!

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:18 pm
by Hillbilly
"A reasonably good young core" ... And a good trade package to bring in another player to entice LeBron to stay.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:21 pm
by Hillbilly
No discipline will fall on Hood following meeting.

He hasn't been himself offensively in quite a while either, TFIR. I'd stick with Osman, who was far more effective yesterday on both ends.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 8:16 am
by TFIR
Yeah, agree there for sure HB

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Wed May 09, 2018 2:04 pm
by Peter C
This is great analysis and fun to watch. I also just posted it in the Cavs folder on the Browns' forum.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2344 ... a-playoffs

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:17 am
by TFIR
"Those three together are just really, really good," says Nate McMillan, the Pacers coach who dealt with them for seven games in the first round. "There really isn't anything you can plan for. They just kind of play random basketball."

When Love feels like a participant, and not a bystander, he tends to play with more spirit on both ends. "We can't just stand and watch LeBron," Korver says. "That's a trap we all fall into. It's fine to do that sometimes. But we have to stay involved."

Korver and Love watch film together, hoping to discover new strains of this virus. "He has made me a better pro, in terms of watching film and really breaking it down," Love says of Korver.

"I think we can get a lot better," Korver says. "There's the game, and then there's the game Kevin and I play within the game."

Wow, great find Peter C and I highlighted some of the quotes.

As a retired teacher (not lawyer) this is some higher level thinking that only cerebral veteran players would be able to pull off - with special talents as well. I immediately sympathized with the Clarksons, Nances, Hoods (not so much G. Hill) who have to be completely baffled by such spontaneous plays. This is not just running some play like they are used to it's simply running a set and taking what the defense gives you. And Love is so talented in so many ways that it works!

And of course the mere presence of Lebron drawing all kinds of focus - both pregame and in game gives it all a context in which to work. They don't just sit around bitching/gawking at him they find ways to mesh with it.

Thanks again Peter C

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 9:19 am
by TFIR
Crazy that we finally get to the series we all anticipated and the Celtics don't have Kyrie.

Brad Stevens is one freaking genius. And kudos to Danny Ainge for drafting Jaylen Brown and Tatum! Add in Terry Rozier who has filled the Kyrie role really well. The future is theirs but not this season.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 10:49 am
by Hillbilly
I really liked Rozier coming out of Louisville. I remember wanting Cavs to grab him. Glad he is finally getting his shot.

Brad Stevens is best coach in NBA, in my worthless opinion.

That said, you give me choice of best coach or best player and I will take the player. So we are still going to kick their ass.

Again.

Re: Cleveland Cavaliers

Posted: Thu May 10, 2018 12:53 pm
by Hillbilly
Former Cleveland Cavaliers general manager David Griffin said Cavs superstar LeBron James was telling Toronto Raptors players how to run their own plays during the team's second-round sweep in the 2017 NBA playoffs.

On Thursday, William Lou of The Score passed along comments Griffin made about the situation during an appearance on The Bill Simmons Podcast.

"I was in the gym when I watched him on the floor against Toronto tell Patrick Patterson where he was supposed to go on the play they had called out of a timeout late in the fourth quarter," Griffin said. "He was like 'no Pat, you're supposed to stand over there and set a pin down for DeMar (DeRozan) over here.'"

Cleveland won those four games over the Raptors by an average of 15.25 points.

The Cavaliers' dominance over Toronto continued in this year's playoffs with their second straight sweep of DeRozan, Kyle Lowry and Co. The easy second-round triumph came after the Cavs barely escaped Round 1, edging the Indiana Pacers in a tight Game 7.

James' squad has knocked the Raptors out of the postseason each of the last three years.