Update was released by league today, and Lindor is nowhere in Top 5. Disgrace.
http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/news/ml ... bf2a2pp35a
Shortstop: Xander Bogaerts, Red Sox
The league leader in wins above replacement and batting average, what more do you want? OK, so Alcides Escobar is second in the voting and Francisco Lindor is nowhere to be found in the top five, but Bogaerts is easily the guy and leading by 582,430 votes over Escobar, with Troy Tulowitzki (further eye roll) nearly a million votes back in third. It would be interesting if it were a Bogaerts-Machado vote, but it’s not, and that’s good.
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6347Pathetic. Tulo can't even get his carcass out on the field! As usual.
I can see Bogaerts, but then at the very least Lindor should be #2.
I can see Bogaerts, but then at the very least Lindor should be #2.
"I've suffered a great many tragedies in my life....most of them never happened". Mark Twain
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6348I was just about to say that our SS that can't come in the top 5 is 2 for 2 on the day with a single and double. But then he gets picked off 2nd base, so now I've changed my mind. Clearly not all star material. I must be like all star voters. We're a fickle bunch.
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6349I was into early sabermatics, and used to buy the annual Bill James books, but I kind of got stuck at OPS which is incredibly simple to comprehend and isolated power. I know that Trout scores higher WAR than Babe Ruth or Ty Cobb or Stan Musial or Ted Williams or anyone else since Abner Doubleday. In fact, I wonder what Doubleday's WAR was? Since there was no one before him to compare with he must have had an infinite WAR at the time.
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6350Just saw the top 5 AS fan voting for all positions.....not an Indian in sight.
That's what happens when you have a pure democracy and let the morons vote.
That's what happens when you have a pure democracy and let the morons vote.
Re: General Discussion
6351of course the only Indian who really deserves it is Lindor and he's still a newcomer to the league, let alone plays for a team in the remote midsection of the country that no one knows much about and that doesn't draw fans to its home games.
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6352I don't think they still do any All Star game voting at the ballparks. It's all online, I believe. So local radio and TV stations could promote voting for Indians. It worked for the Rock Hall years ago, right?
Here is the ballot.
" Vote a maximum of 35 times. You can vote up to 5 times in any 24-hour period. Voting ends June 30, 2016 at 11:59 PM ET. "
https://securea.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_ ... allot-2016
"You must use a valid email address when voting. By voting, you give your express permission to receive limited commercial emails related to your ballot participation from MLB.com"
So I guess you can set up multiple email accounts, and vote 35 times with each one.
Here is the ballot.
" Vote a maximum of 35 times. You can vote up to 5 times in any 24-hour period. Voting ends June 30, 2016 at 11:59 PM ET. "
https://securea.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_ ... allot-2016
"You must use a valid email address when voting. By voting, you give your express permission to receive limited commercial emails related to your ballot participation from MLB.com"
So I guess you can set up multiple email accounts, and vote 35 times with each one.
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6353well 35 votes each for the few Indians fans in America doesn't go too far.
[back in the late 90s I'd run across Indians' hats and shirts anywhere I traveled in the USA. Not anymore]
[back in the late 90s I'd run across Indians' hats and shirts anywhere I traveled in the USA. Not anymore]
Re: General Discussion
6354The 90s was a great time to be an Indian fan, no doubt! It was great fun to be at the Jake when it was sold out, and there was always a good chance for a win. I had a large Tribe flag hanging outside my house.
But though the attendance is sad now, I heard that the TV ratings are very good.
But though the attendance is sad now, I heard that the TV ratings are very good.
Re: General Discussion
6355Maybe after the Cavs win on Sunday, the optimism will spread to the Indians and the crowds will grow.
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6356Cavs relieve the pressure. Indians can go ahead and win without having a 50-year-burden to carry.
Although there's still their own 68 year wait to end.
Although there's still their own 68 year wait to end.
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6357Indians' Michael Brantley: Experiencing tendinitis
Reported by CBSSports.com
Brantley (shoulder) received a cortisone shot Tuesday and is dealing with right biceps tendon tendinitis.
Brantley has continued to experience discomfort in his shoulder and was re-examined Tuesday, revealing the tendinitis. He still hasn't progressed to taking live batting practice and it appears he's suffered something of a setback, so he'll likely take the next few days slowly after receiving the cortisone shot.
The 29-year-old had been able to take soft toss, but it's unclear what the next steps will be once he resumes baseball activities.
Reported by CBSSports.com
Brantley (shoulder) received a cortisone shot Tuesday and is dealing with right biceps tendon tendinitis.
Brantley has continued to experience discomfort in his shoulder and was re-examined Tuesday, revealing the tendinitis. He still hasn't progressed to taking live batting practice and it appears he's suffered something of a setback, so he'll likely take the next few days slowly after receiving the cortisone shot.
The 29-year-old had been able to take soft toss, but it's unclear what the next steps will be once he resumes baseball activities.
"I've suffered a great many tragedies in my life....most of them never happened". Mark Twain
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6359Don't know what Mickey Callaway's salary is but he's worth every penny....and then some.
If Alabama can pay its strength and conditioning coach 525K, Callaway deserves a raise.
If Alabama can pay its strength and conditioning coach 525K, Callaway deserves a raise.
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6360From Ken Rosenthal ....
The Indians, short on outfielders, have been mentioned as possible suitors for the Reds’ Jay Bruce.
There is just one problem: Bruce added the Indians to his no-trade list in November, enabling him to block any proposed trade to Cleveland, a major-league source said.
The Indians still could acquire Bruce, but likely would need to give him some kind of financial inducement to entice him to waive his no-trade protection.
Prior to the change, Bruce’s eight-team list included the Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Athletics, Rays, Marlins, Twins and Diamondbacks, according to ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick.
Bruce substituted the Indians for the Blue Jays — and the Jays nearly acquired him in February in a three-team deal that would have sent outfielder Michael Saunders to the Angels and prospects to the Reds.
The deal collapsed because of medical concerns about a Jays minor leaguer who was headed to the Reds, sources said at the time.
Bruce, 29, since has increased his trade value, batting .285 with 16 homers and a .930 OPS. Any team that acquires him will inherit his $13 million option for 2017.
Saunders, also 29, has performed even better than Bruce, proving yet again that sometimes the best deals are the ones that are not made. He is batting .304 with 15 homers, and his .971 OPS as an outfielder leads the majors, according to STATS LLC.
The Indians, without the injured Michael Brantley, currently are using Lonnie Chisenhall, Rajai Davis, Tyler Naquin and Jose Ramirez in their outfield.
Abraham Almonte, who is eligible to return from his 80-game suspension for performance-enhancing drugs on July 3, hit a home run in his first Triple-A rehab game on Wednesday.
MLB.com first reported last November that the Indians were on Bruce’s no-trade list.
The Indians, short on outfielders, have been mentioned as possible suitors for the Reds’ Jay Bruce.
There is just one problem: Bruce added the Indians to his no-trade list in November, enabling him to block any proposed trade to Cleveland, a major-league source said.
The Indians still could acquire Bruce, but likely would need to give him some kind of financial inducement to entice him to waive his no-trade protection.
Prior to the change, Bruce’s eight-team list included the Yankees, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Athletics, Rays, Marlins, Twins and Diamondbacks, according to ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick.
Bruce substituted the Indians for the Blue Jays — and the Jays nearly acquired him in February in a three-team deal that would have sent outfielder Michael Saunders to the Angels and prospects to the Reds.
The deal collapsed because of medical concerns about a Jays minor leaguer who was headed to the Reds, sources said at the time.
Bruce, 29, since has increased his trade value, batting .285 with 16 homers and a .930 OPS. Any team that acquires him will inherit his $13 million option for 2017.
Saunders, also 29, has performed even better than Bruce, proving yet again that sometimes the best deals are the ones that are not made. He is batting .304 with 15 homers, and his .971 OPS as an outfielder leads the majors, according to STATS LLC.
The Indians, without the injured Michael Brantley, currently are using Lonnie Chisenhall, Rajai Davis, Tyler Naquin and Jose Ramirez in their outfield.
Abraham Almonte, who is eligible to return from his 80-game suspension for performance-enhancing drugs on July 3, hit a home run in his first Triple-A rehab game on Wednesday.
MLB.com first reported last November that the Indians were on Bruce’s no-trade list.